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The Clock Problem

On July 12, @PicturesFoIder x-ed (or tweeted) the following picture:

Picture © Anon.

Is this another ill-posed math question? Or just another arguably creative solution that put the teacher or tutor in a catch-22 response?

Let’s look at a sample of comments for and against the given answer.

They don’t want a digital clock!
This is the correct answer for anyone that is somehow confused!
🤔

Teacher needed to say clock with hour and minute hands.

The question says “small clock”, not “analog clock”, therefore the answer is correct.

This is everything what’s wrong with current educational system.
It sure does prepare you.
To think in the frameworks they want you to think. For example “there is only one right solution to a problem and that ain’t it”

thats what happens when you let kids use ipads at a young age

This student should be transferred to art school immediately

On one hand I’m scared that the new generation can’t read physical clocks, on the other hand, I’m surprised by the out of the box thinking

If my child received a X for that answer, I would challenge it. There is nothing at all wrong. It is a small clock showing ten past eleven. 100% accurate. IF they wanted a conventional clock face that should have been stated. I’d have given 2 ticks for innovative thinking!

The question doesn’t specify that it meant “analog clock” plus it says “10 minutes past 11:00” which implies digital time as opposed to “10 minutes past 11 o’clock” which would imply analog time.

I would have drawn an analog and digital clock with a note saying the request was ambiguous and next time be more specific. Also how small? Another ambiguous request

How many of these responses would you agree or disagree with? Valid or invalid, or preposterous in some instances, most of these comments can’t be discounted offhand.

Followers or Oddballs?

At a time when politicians, pastors, or even prisoners are often hypocritically or insincerely pushing for an overhaul of their rigid educational system (from which they themselves benefited much)—which promotes rote learning or regurgitation, or prepares students to the test—are math teachers ready for students’ unconventional or disruptive solutions, which often border on the ridiculous or irreverent?

If a child (or a trained chimpanzee) presented the solution below to the above problem, what would your response or reaction be?

Picture © Anon.

Would you mark it wrong or partially correct, because he or she had failed to take account that time on a clock is determined by the hour hand alone, with the minute hand acting as a mere convenience? Or in layman terms, the hour hand had also moved when the minute hand took a sixty-degree turn.

Or would you take this opportunity to introduce nonroutine (or more subtle faux) questions like the ones below?

1. What is the angle measure between the hands of a clock at 10 minutes past 11:00?

2. A clock reads ten minutes past eleven. What time would the clock read if the hands of the clock were interchanged?

3. Are there other times of the day when the hands of a clock would also show the same angle measure as when they were at 11:10?

The Positives of Ill-Posed Questions

An ill-posed question, or the unexpected answers to such a flawed question, is a gold mine for creative mathematical problem posing. It not only provides an off-the-wall sense of humor, but also gives math educators an opportunity to address students’ mathematical loopholes or their half-baked understanding of concepts.

Positively & creatively yours

© Yan Kow Cheong, August 13, 2023.